Climb to the Head Waters of Sain Creek.
There are gates to keep motor vehicles out. The "No Trespassing" Signs are for the timber land, not the roads.
This is Stimson Lumber-managed land. Do not use weekdays 8-5. Respect "Closed" signs if present, e.g. during fire-danger times. Watch for hunters during hunting season. Very remote area, so travel solo at your own risk.
Sain Creek rd is steep and has some big rocks in the gravel, be careful going downhill on that stretch. The hills on Sain Creek Rd are serious going up (gears) and down (brakes).
One can park at the Sain Creek picnic area and make a loop out of this. Parking pass at Hagg is required.
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